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JBjb4321's avatar

Thanks Hannah, the other and more important side of this is why substitutes for meat are so expensive. I think the answer is the market they cater to. As you rightly point out, one can learn to cook beans and tofu, that will be much cheaper and healthier than meat substitutes. So meat substitutes are by definition not for those willing to pay this premium.

I do think some plant-based products could be made that are easier to cook - just giving-up on trying to resemble meat. Some tofu products in Asia are delicious, cheap, and extremely convenient to cook. Profit margin on that is low, though, so don't expect a western firm to invest anything in that space, shareholders would not allow.

Tilman Eichstädt's avatar

Thanks Hannah, great and insightful article, just one little caveat.

Mostly I agree with your conclusion, we need to get alternative proteins a lot cheaper. I do think, we are some 10-15 y behind what happened to LED Lighting, Solar Energy and now Batteries and EVs. Alt Protein prices are coming down, we are just behind the very first hype cycle. And in fact an exciting trend we are currently seeing is hybrid proteins. So beef mince with pea protein or mushrooms in there. Creating a cheaper product, with lower emissions and better health properties. Super exciting.

My caveat: Your back of the envelop calculation for EU comes to 0.25EUR/kilo for meats and milks. I agree for meat that sounds moderate, but what about milk? If I understand your calculation correctly, you do include the milk production. And I remember correctly, milk prices used to be around 0.4EUR/kilo in total farmers sales price. There 0.25EUR subsidy seems quite massive no? And let's keep in mind, at the end, every milk cow, at some day will turn into a burger. So that money, actually also supports keeping beef prices down....

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